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Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig Review

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Brian Biewer

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On Aug 29, 2018
Last modified:Aug 29, 2018


We review Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig, a collaboration game published by Stonemaier Games and Bezier Games. Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig is based on the mechanics of Between Two Cities and Castles of Mad King Ludwig.

Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig Review

Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig“Here. Review this,” said Tony as he tossed a game at my face while feeding his twins.

“What is….Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig? Wait, WHAT?”

*mind explodes*

Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig (Between Two Castles going forward) is a collaboration between Stonemaier Games and Bezier Games that blends two of their games: Between Two Cities and Castles of Mad King Ludwig.

Between Two Castles is a semi-cooperative tile drafting, castle building game for 3-7 players (with a 2 player variant) that takes about an hour to play.

Gameplay Overview:

In Between Two Castles, players simultaneously build two castles, one with the player on their right and one with the player on their left.

Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig Player Aid
Scoring is much more involved in Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig.

The game will last two rounds that play out as follows:

  • Players take a stack of nine room tiles and draft two of them, passing the remaining to their left.
    • There are seven types of room tiles – five that can be built on the ground floor or higher, one that can be built only below ground, and one that can be built on any level.
  • Players will discuss with their partners which of the two tiles they will be placing as well as where they will be placed.
  • After everyone has placed their two tiles, players pick up the remaining tiles from their right.
  • These steps repeat three more times (after the fourth round the undrafted tile is discarded).

The only difference in the second round is that tiles are passed to the right and picked up from the left.

Once both rounds are completed (8 total turns), the scores for the castles are calculated. Each tile type scores in a different way. Players earn the lower of the two scores for the castles on their left and right. The player with the highest score wins!

Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig Game Experience
Each player will be building a castle with the player on their left and the player on their right.

Game Experience:

I was VERY surprised when Between Two Castles showed up. Then my emotions moved to intrigue. What would the game be like? How will they work together? Could Stonemaier and FFG do this with Scythe and Eldritch Horror???

Between Two Castles has more in common with Between Two Cities than Castles of Mad King Ludwig. This game uses the tile drafting, neighbor cooperation, and scoring mechanics that were core to the Between Two Cities experience. The Castles of Mad King Ludwig contributions to this game are the theme and more complicated scoring. One of Castles of Mad King Ludwig’s most noteworthy mechanics, the setting of prices, is not present because tiles are drafted.

I know what you are thinking: does the combination of two good games work? My short answer: mostly.

Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig Tile
Each tile will score in a different way, some even within their own set.

To begin with, I love the new building options! Instead of building within the rigid grid rules from Between Two Cities, you build your castles however you want. Placing tiles follows some basic rules such as they must share an edge and you cannot build above ground tiles below ground (or vice versa). However if you want to win, you will need to pay attention to which tiles are in your castle and how they are placed.

This is probably where people will either like or hate Between Two Castles.

The seven room tile types all score differently. To complicate matters, most types score differently within their own type. For example, Outdoor tiles score 1 point for each of a specific tile type in the castle. Some score on the number of Food tiles while others score on the number of Utility tiles. Downstairs tiles score based on matching a tile type anywhere in its column of tiles. As you can see, it is more involved than its predecessor.

I loved this part of the game. Do you want to place the Sleeping room tile early and risk not maximizing its points? Should you place an Outdoor room tile because it will score the three Sleeping tiles in the castle, even though you can no longer build upwards in its column? There is also the risk/reward analysis that is needed because the value of these tiles can change based on future tile placements. But wait, there is more…

Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig Throne Room
A universal complaint with the game is that the scoring icons are just too tiny.

You also get a bonus for placing the third tile of the same type. These bonuses come in several forms, from immediately adding a new room or specialty tile (Fountain, Tower or Grand Foyer) to your castle, to drawing a bonus card that will score at the end of the game. This complicates (in a good way) deciding what tile to place because you may want to place a third Food tile, even though WHERE you place it will get you no points, just to earn the bonus. But wait, there is more…

Every tile has one of four symbols in the top right corner representing wall hangings in the room. These will be scored by either the Corridor room tile or the bonus earned from placing three Living room tiles. When you have two of the same room types in your hand, you will want to pay attention to which wall hanging it has so you can draft the one the one that will potentially score you more points. This presents another variable in evaluating a tile’s worth.

As you can see, scoring is significantly more complicated in this game. It is also more random because each room type scores differently based on the tile you have.

Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig Bonus
Building three of the same room type will provide a bonus, such as the throne room tiles.

What makes it more difficult, and this was a universal complaint from everyone who played this game with me, is that the iconography is too small and difficult to read. The bottom section of each tile shows how that tile will score. For types that score based on being adjacent to a specific room type, a tiny black square indicates where the room needs to be in relation to the tile you placed. Until you have played the game a couple of times and understand how each room type scores, this will be frustrating.

The complexity of the scoring, combined with the iconography, is why I stated that this combination of two games “mostly” works. It also increases the length of play and pushes the game out of the filler category. For some, that may be a deal breaker.

There are two non-gameplay items I want to mention before I wrap this up:

  • The tile art is fantastic! There are 21 tiles for each of the seven room types. My calculator tells me that is a total of 147 tiles. EACH one has unique art (and name) which blew me away! It also leads to interesting “stories” in the game, like intentionally building an In-Law Suite above The Hole. Once we moved from learning the game to understanding it, the stories we created from our unique castle made the experience more enjoyable.
  • The gaming trays – The game includes two castle themed game trays. Both trays are great and make organization, set up, and clean up more efficient.
Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig Game Trayz
The game trays are awesome as usual and make keeping the game organized a breeze.

Final thoughts:

I liked this game. If I had to choose between the two, I would easily keep this game over Between Two Cities. While the scoring is more random, I really enjoyed puzzling through the multiple scoring options and bonus opportunities each draft presented me. I also loved the fact that the art department went above and beyond by providing unique art on every room tile. Finally, I would encourage anyone who did not like the original to still give Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig a chance. A couple of friends who did not like Between Two Cities were surprised by how much they enjoyed this game.

I would not recommend it to gamers who do not want a more complicated version of Between Two Cities or randomness in game scoring. Also, due to the increased play time, I would not consider this a filler, which was one of the selling points of Between Two Cities.

Final Score: 3.5 Stars – A deeper and more complex follow up to Between Two Cities with some great production values.

3.5 StarsHits:
• “Collaborating with your neighbors” mechanic is improved due to the increased depth
• Scoring, while random (see below), is more fun and engaging than the original
• All tiles have unique names and art!
• The game trays are excellent as always

• The iconography on the tiles is too small and difficult to read
• Scoring is more random and end game scoring takes quite a while

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